Sullivan County: +Child That Fell+
Sullivan County: Viznitz'a Camp at Pleasent Valley Road near the 4 corners, Hatzolah ALS on the scene for a child that fell and has serious injuries, requesting additional ALS and chopper from Sullivan County. L/Z at the Fallsburg High School at Brickman Rd.
posted by VOS IZ NEIAS @ 8/08/2005 05:51:00 PM
82 Comments:
At 6:00 PM,
Anonymous said…
Q-8 coordinate the scene, didn't wait for F-60
At 6:08 PM,
Anonymous said…
what happened?
At 6:11 PM,
Anonymous said…
LETS GO Q-8
At 6:12 PM,
Anonymous said…
Child fell from uncertain height
At 6:28 PM,
Anonymous said…
unknown height
At 6:28 PM,
Anonymous said…
THE INDIVIDUAL WHO KEEPS MENTIONING THE HATZALOH MEMBERS IS OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE WHO IS A LOSER AND MUST HAVE BEEN REJECTED. GET A LIFE. YOU ACT LIKE A CLASSLESS INDIVIDUAL WHO MOST PROBABLY IS NOT VERY EDUCATED. IF YOU WERE YOU'D ACT WITH MORE INTELLIGENCE. IT'S APPARENT YOU ARE QUITE IMMATURE.
At 6:30 PM,
Anonymous said…
stop this nonsense ! what happend what is the name of the child .
At 6:35 PM,
Anonymous said…
so what q8 there or not?
At 6:36 PM,
Anonymous said…
hatzulah fight!!!!
here we go again!
At 7:01 PM,
Anonymous said…
I believe Q106 was on the scene as well and was scene coordinator...
At 7:03 PM,
Anonymous said…
Who is q-106
At 7:09 PM,
Anonymous said…
could all anonymous people stop writing all this hatred and garbage, and start writing like normal people for example who fell how bad are his injuries etc.
At 7:18 PM,
Anonymous said…
whats all this hatzolah reject b.s what is the name ,what happened ?
At 7:24 PM,
Anonymous said…
It was in Vishnitz bnei b'rak.
6 year old boy fell 25 feet. The first units did not recognize it, but Q8 asked for the chopper just for the child fell so high.
Turns out the child has internal bleading from the spleen. he is stable and will be operated on immediately in westchester hospital.
Also, they were looking for a member to take the parents to westchester on a rush. when Catskills 76 (i think) answered, they said he should dissregaurd. (probably Q8 did'nt want him driving lights and siren all the way to westchester!)
Hatzolah did a good job here; the first responders? (some catskill members) can use some more training. It took them so long to even ask for medics and missed the rigid stomack.
At 7:33 PM,
Anonymous said…
any more info??
At 7:35 PM,
Anonymous said…
what els do u want to know, thats not enough?
At 7:44 PM,
Anonymous said…
will they have to remove the spleen?
At 7:45 PM,
Anonymous said…
does anyone know the name?
At 8:55 PM,
Anonymous said…
whats his social security number ?
At 8:56 PM,
Anonymous said…
whats his address ?
At 8:56 PM,
Anonymous said…
date of birth ?
At 9:53 PM,
Anonymous said…
listen to B-41's B/s
for kuved he will go to jail.
http://rapidshare.de/files/3747110/JackTheWack.wav.html
At 9:55 PM,
Anonymous said…
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At 10:11 PM,
Anonymous said…
PLEASE REMOVE THE POSTS THAT MENTION HATZALOH MEMBERS BY THEIR NUMBER. THIS IS 100% AGAINST HATZALOH POLICY AND HALACHA. THERE IS OBVIOUSLY AN ISSUE WITH THE PERSON WHO KEEPS ON MENTIONING Q-8 AND OTHER MEMBERS. PLEASE REMOVE THOS POSTS. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST COMPLAINT. THIS SITE IS A NICE SERVICE, BUT THIS IS WHERE IT SEEMS TO BE GETTING OUT OF HAND. THANK YOU
At 10:14 PM,
Anonymous said…
any request anyone has, please address to us via e-mail, not here
At 10:17 PM,
Anonymous said…
what this file all about, it has to do with this call?
At 10:27 PM,
Anonymous said…
whats the email address?
At 10:31 PM,
Anonymous said…
or for me PinchasMilach@aol.com
or for my boss ShlomaShamos@aol.com
At 11:02 PM,
Anonymous said…
GUYS LEAVE HATZALOH ALONE.!!!!! CAN YOU DO A BETTER JOB??? OBVIOUSLY NOT!!! WHEN YOU NEED HELP, WHO DO YOU CALL???/HATZALOH!!!!!!HATZALOH!!!"RIFT"HATZALOH!!!!!!SCHNELL , SCHNELL "RIFT" HATZALOH!!!! CALL HATZALOH!!!! THE BOTTOM LINE IS......THERE IS DEFINATELY JEALOUSLY HERE!!!! SO IF YOU HAVE BAD THINGS TO SAY , REMEMBER THE NEXT TIME YOU NEED HELP ---CALL 911!!! AND HOLD YOUR BREATH!!!!
At 11:16 PM,
VOS IZ NEIAS said…
reasonable conversation is what we will tolerated, the rest will be deleted
At 1:01 AM,
Anonymous said…
This who you going to call next time BS is just as bad as the Hatzolah sucks comments.
BTW, the comment about Hatzolah missing the internal bleeding, is yet another legitimate claim against Hatzolah that people just want to ignore.
I hope it doesn't come to it, but one day, something serious will happen, and REMSCO or the Attorney General will shut Hatzolah down.
I suggest that Hatzolah start cleaning up their act before there is nothing left to clean up.
At 1:06 AM,
AskMeLater said…
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At 1:08 AM,
Anonymous said…
PLEASE REMOVE THE POSTS THAT MENTION HATZALOH MEMBERS BY THEIR NUMBER. THIS IS 100% AGAINST HATZALOH POLICY AND HALACHA.
100% against Hatzolah policy. What policy are you refering to???????? Secondly, this is a public site, and doesn't have to stick to Hatzolah's rules.
As for halacha, what halacha is this against?? The gemora says that a gabbai tzedakah had no pockets so that no one would accuse him of stealing. Why did he have to concern himself with idle chatter of others? Because when you represent the public, you are answerable to the public, (and that means even the losers who make silly comments, such as commenting that the gabbai tzedakah pocketed money.) Hatzolah is a public organization, that receives public funds. They should be answerable to the public, just as we expect from every other public mosed.
At 2:04 AM,
Anonymous said…
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At 10:01 AM,
Anonymous said…
it seems that Buffs know everything and are the top emts and have top training ! The buffs have super experiance by working for transcare or the like for $6.00 hr shleping one old lady from one nursing home to another MAJOR experiance !! Listen Hatzolah members have a lot more experiance and training than you lowlife buffs and wannabees so hatzolah keep up the good work !
At 10:21 AM,
Anonymous said…
Excuse me, but some of your "buffs" are Army medics, and have seen quite a bit more action than any hatzolah member here.
I take offense to the comment. Regardless, if someone makes legitimate claims, attacking them does nothing to address the issue.
Any EMT knows a rigid stomach indicates internal bleeding. But the reality is, that in the field, some things are not always obvious, and even medics with years of experience can miss it.
The one who criticized Hatzolah, were you there to tap on the stomach to know how rigid it was. It's always easier to talk after the fact.
At 10:32 AM,
Anonymous said…
Come on stop all the fighting and get along
At 10:36 AM,
Anonymous said…
We all know after said and done that when one is in need they are gonna call hatzolah rather wait 15-20 somtimes 30 mins for the city to get there so why dont all you people that keep puting down hatzolah just keep your mouths shut and like my grandmother used to say " if you have nothing good to say dont say anything"
At 10:40 AM,
Anonymous said…
PLEASE LET THIS SITE BE A SOURCE OF INFORMATION NOT ARGUEMENTS
At 10:48 AM,
Anonymous said…
listen guys and gals: A rigid stomach can take a while to build up. The spleen can bleed very slow. Left unnoticed it can take up to two hours for the child to start vomiting and other symptoms.
so lets be fair here. The members on scene in the first 10 minuts don't get to do a full survey. I am not even sure that Q8 was the one recognizing it. maybe it "was" the first units or the flight crew.
what I said was Q 8 asked for a chopper before he even got to the scene. and it took a long time from this call was dispatched until the members asked for medics (for a fall of 25 feet!)
At 10:50 AM,
Anonymous said…
after q8 was dispatched f60 was trying to be the back up medic but another medic said he was closer.
the base said f60 he can go but he said it was ok. after the chopper was asked the base told f60 he is reqested there.
At 10:52 AM,
Anonymous said…
So there is internal squablings among Hatzolah members. Who really cares?
At 10:59 AM,
Anonymous said…
who realy cares?
there was 630 postings on the other post about the s fallsburg mva. vus is neis told me he had over 20,000 viewers on it!
so who cares?
At 11:05 AM,
Anonymous said…
Yes there were 630 postings, but there was probably just five poster posting over and over. As for the 20,000 views that he got, people just like action and dirt, and they check back frequently to hear the latest.
Also, 20,000 views with people checking back 500 times is only 400 people.
At 11:08 AM,
Anonymous said…
So 400 people are about internal Hatzolah politics. Thats not really alot of people at all.
This has gotten way out of hand.
Hatzolah is not perfect, but let's not hang their dirty laundry in public. Chas Vshalom a goyisher press gets ahold of this, and that can put an end to all of the good that Hatzolah does. Is a little ego and politics worth closing down such a wonderful organization. We all know the goyim are jealous of Hatzolah, and will stomp at any opportunity to put an end to it.
At 11:09 AM,
Anonymous said…
Who needs the goyisher press when we have "Der Yid", "Jewish Press", and "The Jewish Week" that would just love the opportunity as well.
At 11:11 AM,
Anonymous said…
""after q8 was dispatched f60 was trying to be the back up medic but another medic said he was closer.
the base said f60 he can go but he said it was ok. after the chopper was asked the base told f60 he is reqested there. ""
GROW UP AND GET A LIFE !!! STOP BEING SUCH A YENTA !! AND STOP MENTIONING HATZALOH MEMBERS!!!! GET A LIFE!!
At 11:30 AM,
Anonymous said…
all of you loosers who sit there with a scanner listening to the calls and then darshening on the call are a bunch of low lives who need to grow up and face the fact that this is the reason you werent let into hatzolah!!!!!
At 11:34 AM,
Anonymous said…
i think these guys are doing a great job and keep up the good work it says no to say numbers but Q-8 saved my cousins life a few years back and my family owes him alot. and as for F-60 that man does not sleep the whole summer practicly so until i see you guys doing it all summer shut your traps and keep quite
At 11:34 AM,
Anonymous said…
GROW UPP ALL OF YOU!!!!!!
At 11:35 AM,
Anonymous said…
Criticism is good. It's healthy. An organization that saves lives is not immune from criticism. Contructive criticism will only mean the organization will be able to save even more lives. Plus, any organization funded by the public should be transparent in all it's aspects.
It's not too muck to ask for.
At 11:47 AM,
Anonymous said…
""all of you loosers who sit there with a scanner listening to the calls and then darshening on the call are a bunch of low lives who need to grow up and face the fact that this is the reason you werent let into hatzolah!!!!! ""
I AGREE 10000%
At 11:52 AM,
Anonymous said…
OK, so what percent of the current membership were buffs perviously? Id say almost 100%.
At 12:03 PM,
Anonymous said…
>OK, so what percent of the current membership were buffs perviously? Id say almost 100%. >
this is so true!
I remember almost all of the members and even those who call themselves coordinators, running around with scanners.
well said.
At 12:07 PM,
Anonymous said…
by the way the kid is ok he is only under obsuvation for 24 hour (no internal bleeding, no broken spleen)
At 12:10 PM,
Anonymous said…
Today's buffs are tommorrows members, and today's members are tommorrows coordinators.
At 12:28 PM,
Anonymous said…
it could be the spleen was not damaged. this was my information from the scene. they suspected it. b.h. it turned out not to be so.
At 12:57 PM,
Anonymous said…
yeah,
but the first thing you do is criticise!!!
At 1:03 PM,
Anonymous said…
Does anybody have anything good to say about hatzolah????
At 1:18 PM,
Anonymous said…
Yes, they wake up at 2:30 am to help others.
At 1:44 PM,
Anonymous said…
They spend hours of their own time to help others and dont get a penny for it
At 1:56 PM,
Anonymous said…
"after q8 was dispatched f60 was trying to be the back up medic but another medic said he was closer.
the base said f60 he can go but he said it was ok. after the chopper was asked the base told f60 he is reqested there."
CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE US A TRANSCRIPT OF TODAYS CALLS?
At 2:03 PM,
Anonymous said…
unless you know the facts you should keep you mouth shut! not a bad idea? and none of you where there..
At 4:39 PM,
Anonymous said…
What does everyone here do for parnossah that they can afford to sit around and listen to the hatzolah radio all day?
At 4:41 PM,
Anonymous said…
i am a painter
At 4:43 PM,
Anonymous said…
im a truck driver
At 4:43 PM,
Anonymous said…
Who works anymore?
At 4:44 PM,
Anonymous said…
Why bother working if you can get all the programs...
At 4:44 PM,
Anonymous said…
I am a emt for the city
At 4:44 PM,
Anonymous said…
I'm a dispatcher for 911
At 4:44 PM,
Anonymous said…
I work from home
At 4:45 PM,
Anonymous said…
Work?
thats a four letter word i dont belive in it
At 4:45 PM,
Anonymous said…
I sell screws from my trunk
At 4:47 PM,
Anonymous said…
I sit in deli 52 and taste the food and have a scaner on my belt with 2 cell phones 3 peepers and a mini maglite
At 4:48 PM,
Anonymous said…
Monticello firefighters alerted to Hatzalah-impostor problem
By Heather Yakin
Times Herald-Record
hyakin@th-record.com
Monticello – Already this summer, at a car wreck on Route 17, the impostors showed up.
The men responding at emergency scenes claim to be members of Catskill Hatzalah, the volunteer ambulance corps that sends from 250 to 300 emergency medical technicians and 11 ambulances to Sullivan County each summer.
"There are a lot of people who come to calls who are not Hatzalah personnel. They get in our way, and they get in your way," said Yedidyah Langsam, a coordinator with Catskill Hatzalah.
He met yesterday with Monticello firefighters at the Monticello fire station. This was their seventh annual meeting, a tradition established to lay out the groundwork for cooperation.
Langsam encouraged the firefighters to move impostors off the scene and not to be shy about it.
The firefighters said they've been reluctant to be too forceful because they don't want to offend the Orthodox community.
Every summer, tens of thousands of people from Boro Park in Brooklyn, Monsey in Rockland County and other points southeast flock to the Sullivan County Catskills.
For the past 24 years, Catskill Hatzalah has come, too, with ambulances and EMTs. Catskill Hatzalah is affiliated with Chevrah Hatzolah of New York City, the largest volunteer ambulance service in the world. They're staffed by Orthodox Jews – by people just like the folks who flock here for the summer.
On the occasions when there has been a problem, it's been with other people, said Carl Houman, Monticello's director of fire services.
"Whenever we've gotten to a call when they're truly Hatzalah, there's never a problem," he added.
Fire Chief Glenn Somers brought up a summer 2004 incident where a small boy was hit by a truck at a Joyland Road camp. The county E-911 center was trying to dispatch a helicopter, and at the same time Hatzalah was trying to do the same. The result was confusion.
This year, Langsam said, only 911 will launch choppers.
Langsam explained that all Hatzalah members carry photo ID cards with holographic stickers. Their cars are all equipped with medical equipment based on the member's level of certification, and each bears both a Hatzalah sticker with an expiration date and a Department of Health ambulance registration.
And all Hatzalah members are required to wear a bright yellow emergency vest at any scene. If the guy isn't wearing a vest, Langsam told the firefighters, tell him to go home.
At 6:03 PM,
Anonymous said…
This whole blog is becoming crazy. It was a great blog to come visit for breaking news. Now every post deling with a Hatzolah call becomes a discussion board about Hatzolah and/or Yanky Mayer/Issac Leader.
Why don't one of you opn a new blog to discuss your disagreement about Hatzolah or Yanky Mayer? You can call it whatever you like. I.E. Hatzolah sucks, Q-8 or F-60, Yanky or Issac etc.. Why do you have to ruin a good blog?!!
At 10:11 PM,
Anonymous said…
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At 10:47 PM,
Anonymous said…
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At 12:51 AM,
Anonymous said…
The censoring here sucks. I'd rather read all the comments, and use my own intelect to determine those that are obviously written by losers.
At 1:28 AM,
Anonymous said…
How about realizing that this is a private website and its owner has the right to remove asinine comments that he feels are ruining his website.
Maybe the purpose of this site was to talk about NEWS not to trash talk other people because of private jealousies and hatred.
Either way it's his site, not any of ours. I'm sure there's a reason why he took comments out and I'm sure it's a good reason.
He has a right to keep the site doing what he intended it to do.
At 9:00 AM,
Anonymous said…
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At 10:59 AM,
Anonymous said…
To any Hatzolah member reading:
This blog is exactly why you are told to NEVER EVER TALK! PERIOD!
Don't talk about calls or any other Hatzolah related issues! Never to no one!
See how many empty heads try to get any word out of you. These are no dumb guys and know how to interpret and get to know your system, then spreading all this inside information here and to friends, in order to smear your good name!
Remember: Be extra careful of those (there are a lot more "wanna'be's" then the open scanner guys!) who try to talk with you about hatzaloh!
Never argue or let them drag statements (about other members, leadership, calls, etc.) out of your mouth!
This is a dangerous world out there!
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