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Tuesday, August 22, 2006

Brooklyn, NY - Chasidic Families Are Priced Out Of The Boro, For Western N.Y.

Brooklyn, NY - The cost of living in Brooklyn has become so outrageous for some Chasidic families that a Williamsburg rabbi has carved a path of enlightenment - all the way to Scranton, in far western New York State.

As many as 100 families are expected to flee to the serenity of Scranton, in Erie County south of Buffalo, where rabbis Isaac and Altar Rosenbaum are opening a 900-seat private school.
"We are a very large group in Brooklyn and everything has become very expensive here - house payments, taxes, bills, everything," said Isaac Rosenbaum, 39. "It's too much."
Fifteen families from the Nitra and Nadvornah sects have already signed contracts on new homes, the most costly going for around $229,000, said a broker.

The exodus from Williamsburg and Borough Park started in June after Backus took out ads in a local Jewish paper and on a popular Chasidic phone line.
Those ads averaged 40 calls a day, she said. The rabbis, who sermonize from the synagogue Mamer Mordachi on Bedford Ave., were the first to respond. After a Scranton developer bowed out, the rabbis purchased the shuttered intermediate school for $400,000, Isaac Rosenbaum said.
Rabbi Isaac Rosenbaum said he believes he can lure several hundred more families - enough to fill the entire school.
Rivky Gross, 23, said she and husband Abraham, 21, have already picked out their dream home - a four-unit apartment building with a ground floor storefront.
That building will cost her $130,000, said Backus. "If I know there's going to be a Jewish settlement and they'll have everything we need, that's all I need to go there," said Rivky Gross, who currently rents an apartment in Williamsburg. "A lot of people are looking."
Luzi Friedman, whose family lives in Williamsburg, moved to Scranton last August. He plans to open a shoe store with the money he's saved on cheap lunches and cheaper parking. "I actually have a friend who moved in yesterday from Brooklyn - another city guy," said Friedman, 32. "There are plenty of Jews here, but I'm the first so far to walk around with a shtrimel."

25 Comments:

  • At 10:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    scranton is in pa

     
  • At 12:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    scranton is less than half way to buffalo.

     
  • At 12:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    WOW!!! intresting I didnt hear about this but, its about time!!! lets hope it works out.

     
  • At 1:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    its actually under 2 hours from NY, has a nice Jewish community, mostly Litvish though.

     
  • At 1:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    This is one of the smartest things orthodox jews can do, remove themseleves from the Brooklyn jewish ghetto where one will take advantage, unfortunately, of the next. I wish much hatzlacha to those ventuting out to Scranton. May this trend of busting up these ghettos continue. As it states, Uforatzta yama v'kaidma tzofoina v'negba!!!!!!!!

     
  • At 1:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    scranton has a big litfish yeshiva and a very small modern community

     
  • At 2:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Scranton PA is a gorgeous town its about time that new yiddish locations open up. chazak chazak.

    im signing also on a house im yirtshe hashem this week,,it will be a summer or weekend house to start ,then will see,,,its really affordable

     
  • At 10:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    There is a Scranton, NY. It is located about 10 miles south of Buffalo. It is a part of the Village of Hamburg, NY.

     
  • At 11:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    there is cranton, ny and scranton, pa which one are we talking about

     
  • At 12:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    But no Jewish people live in Scranton NY.
    There are Jewish people in Scranton, PA.
    That's the scranton where people are moving.

     
  • At 12:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    while there may be another scranton this article is about pennsylvania

     
  • At 12:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I was there for a visit, it’s very nice indeed, however what will the oilem do for parnusah? I spoke to local goyim and they told me the pay is approximately $7 per hour. While I feel its a very good idea if it works out, it still wont be complete only if we all wizen up and spend less on all the moisres that we continue to spend on. We can all live there even while earning less, but a prerequisite is that we spend less.

     
  • At 1:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Can someone in the know please clarify which Scranton we are talking about. The source article clearly states Erie County in Western NY which is near Buffalo.

     
  • At 1:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    guys here without a doubt its Scranton PA. i was there and saw it myself. there is a litvishe yeshivah and a small community.

     
  • At 1:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    guys here without a doubt its Scranton PA. i was there and saw it myself. there is a litvishe yeshivah and a small community.

     
  • At 1:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    where did the rabbi buy the school in pa or ny

     
  • At 3:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    the school is in SCRANTON PA

    If only we can really get this going it would be the best thing that can happen

    for the guy who says parnassah

    well here is my answer

    first even if you make less your cost of living is lesser - can you imagine not having to pay 1800 rent a month ? how much less do you have to make a hour just on the rent savings -

    taxes are less -

    there is no need for a bungalow in the summer ( 6000-10,000) a year in savings


    no need for summer camps for the kids

    i can go on and on how much less you would need to live -


    now lets take your apt.what do you have now 1200-1500 sq ft

    well there you would have over 2800 + a front and backyard and a driveway that you will have to look for parking again


    so you tell me which one is better
    brooklyn - where you live like a sardine

    or scranton pa


    good luck in your choice

     
  • At 6:30 PM, Blogger baalbatish said…

    Yiddelech need the country even if they live in the country and they need csmps. They will just be outsourcing the Brooklyn mentality as we have done to other jewish communities.

     
  • At 6:33 PM, Blogger baalbatish said…

    The article reads NY but it must be PA.

     
  • At 6:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The article in the daily news says its in western NY it quotes the mayor of the city and if you google his name you will find he is the mayor of sranton. Its a great city i went to yeshiva there. the jewish community dates back to the early 1900s

     
  • At 10:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    baalbatish said...

    exactly what my point was.

    Its very unfortunate that we keep on finding additional items to splurge on. An example would be clothing for children. If B”H you have a few children, you know the conversation that you have with your wife about buying such a cuuuttttteeeee shabbos robe for the children for only $90 each when many stores sell cute ones for only $30. If you multiply that then add such a cute shoe that all of your friends children have….., at a simche everyone is invited just for the meal… I can go on and on. Thats why my point said that it’s a great idea even while earning less with a prerequisite to slash on all the moisres. By not spending on country and taxes we will find new musts. If you have a child that you are marrying off you would understand it so much better, try to arrange all of the shevah bruchoises.

    We have a tendency to constantly find “must haves or dos” while everyone has these tendencies, we are forced to follow everyone like sheep.

     
  • At 12:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    do you think people will now mix up scranton and lancaster?

    ...just a small attempt at humor...

     
  • At 10:25 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    by the way lancaster county real estate is to expensive even for the amish. i read many articles about it

     
  • At 12:24 PM, Blogger dave said…

    not for us, no internet.

     
  • At 5:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Scranton, Pa. has a wonderful, warm, caring Jewish community. It can use a GOOD kosher butcher,bakery and restaurant such as a pizza place. There are also excellent doctors.With all the families coming in I wish them hatzlachah. It is a great place to raise children. There are no taxes on clothing and plenty of outlets.

     

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