Jerusalem, Israel - Rabbis to Curse Parade Organizers
Jerusalem, Israel - A Jewish invocation will be used by ultra Orthodox rabbis in Jerusalem to curse the organizers of the Prade and the police who protect them, said a spokesman for the Edah Haredit Monday.
In a ceremony known as "Pulsa D'nura" (blows of fire), rabbis of the anti-Zionist Edah Haredit rabbinic court will convene sometime before the march, which is scheduled for Friday, to conduct the kabbalistic ceremony which is believed to unleash unearthly powers against specified sinners.
"If done by a competent, God-fearing rabbinic court like the Edah Haredit, the people who are cursed do not live out the year," said a Jerusalem-based rabbi who preferred to remain anonymous.
The rabbi estimated that the curse was also directed at Attorney General Menachem Mazuz. "The haredi community is infuriated with Mazuz," said the rabbi. Mazuz ruled this week that there were no legal obstacles against going ahead with the march.
According to the Edah Haredit, it has been about 50 years since they last used the Pulsa D'nura curse. "It was against people who established Jerusalem's first mixed-sex swimming pool." They said that Gershon Agron, Jerusalem's mayor at the time, was also cursed. "He did not live out the year."
posted by VOS IZ NEIAS @ 11/07/2006 08:24:00 PM
51 Comments:
At 6:53 PM,
Anonymous said…
FIFTY YEARS? All that time under the worst Zionist heretics and murderers, and only NOW in a public relations stunt on ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE??? What kind of "anti-Zionists" are these rabbis? They are hypcrites. Absolute hypocrites. They are just like Agudah and Mizrachi. They want a religious Zionist state. Once they stop the parade, they will tell everyone to "relax" and live happily ever after under Zionism. Gevalt!
At 7:52 PM,
Anonymous said…
Watch your language against the worlds most prestigous rabbanim who are in the midst of a struggle to stop a big chillil shem shumaim And who are you to speak up with such chutzpa against talmidei chachumim
At 8:16 PM,
Anonymous said…
you obviously dont understand the power of this prayer, it is not a game, you can use on every guy who pisses you off. you cannot abuse this power. dont worry....they have used it within the past 50 years....do you remember a idiot called Rabin..i think he was a prime minister...well he is dead!
At 8:27 PM,
Anonymous said…
To camp driver
Do you really think that Rabin was killed by a maniac beacaue he was cursed by the Rabbonim, you are off the wall..should I name you some big Rabbis that died or were killed, were they cursed also?Hashem is the one that decides who should live or not live, not the Eida Hachreidis..
At 8:30 PM,
Anonymous said…
The situation is out of control - HaShem Yerachem...
In Yeshivat Orchot Torah (Rav Shteinman Shlita's Yeshiva in Bnei Brak), Yasamnikim/Kapos entered inside and threw tear gas while students were sleeping. They woke up unable to breathe. Magen David Adom (Hatzala) are on the scene helping many with respirators to get their breathing back.
A 12 year old boy in Bnei Brak was standing among the crowd innocently watching and got beaten up so badly by Yasamnikim/Kapo/ devils for doing absolutely nothing.
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Orthodox headquarters formulated a growing united group of Gdolei HaDor (tremendous Tzaddikim of our generation) together with Roshei Yeshivot (heads of yeshivot) to march in the front line, with a million protestors in Yerushalayim, protesting the parade.
Among the Gdolei HaDor that will be physically protesting are the Admor of Gur (Gerrer Rebbe shlita), Belz Rebbe Shlita, all Bet Din chiefs of Yerushalayim, HaRav HaGaon Maran Yosef Shalom Eliyashiv Shlita, HaRav HaGaon Chacham Ovadia Yosef Shlita, etc.
CAN ANYONE VERIFY THE ABOVE 2 REPORTS?
At 9:33 PM,
VOS IZ NEIAS said…
The student organizations in Jerusalem sent a letter Monday to Jerusalem Mayor Uri Lupolianski, calling on him to denounce the haredi violence against the upcoming pride parade, and take all measure against law breakers.
At 10:37 PM,
Anonymous said…
PLEASE EVERYONE As you know, Jerusalem is on the verge of unprecedented desecration. Please help prevent it from happening, by signing the following urgent petition: www.RespectJerusalem.com/e.asp , and encouraging others to sign it too. Thank you very much.
At 10:44 PM,
Anonymous said…
You've got to be kidding. A rabbi is going to place a curse on the organizers and police to
unleash unearthly powers against specified sinners? Is this really part of your religion? You all actually believe this?
Do you all have voodoo dolls and magic eight balls too?
At 11:31 PM,
Anonymous said…
Rabin was cursed by the Sefardi Rabanim!
At 12:47 AM,
Anonymous said…
Who cursed Sharon?
Looks like he left out some text...
At 2:07 AM,
Anonymous said…
MR 10:44 HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN TO YOUR KIDS WHO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE EXTREMELY MODEST AND NEVER SEE ANYTHING IMORAL THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE WALKING BY OUR HOUSE MORE THAN HALF NAKED THAT THEY ARE GAY. EVERY RELIGION FROM MUSLIM TO CHRISTIAN TO ESPICALLY JEWISH UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS UNSEEN BUT FELT HOLINESS IN JERUSALEM AND EVERYONE WITH HALF A HEAD ON THEIR SHOULDER KNOWS THAT BEING GAY IS IMMORAL
KNOW BEFORE YOU PICK ON THESE HOLY RABBIS AND MAKE FUN OF THEIR VOODOO OR THEIR 8BALL I WOULD TELL YOU TO RECONSIDER THEY ARE AND IT DOESNT TAKE MUCH TO REALIZE WHEN YOU SEE THEM EXTREMELY HOLY AND THEY DONT JUST CURSE OR SAY THINGS OR DO THINGS WHEN THERE ISNT A REALLY VERY VALID REASON.
AND THIS ACCORDING TO ALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE HALF A MORAL HEAD ON THEM UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS WRONG AND POINTLESS TO HAVE THE FAGGETS MARCH THRU THEIR STREETS AND TO DESECRATE THE HOLINESS OF ISRAEL
SO BE CAREFUL AND MAY THE PARADE NOT HAPPEN AND THE CURSES OF THE RABBIS COME TRUE
At 2:16 AM,
Anonymous said…
Not to long ago sharon was cursed with the pulsa dnura by the mizrachi rabanim look where he is now worse then dead laying like a vegtable so what I understand this pulsa denura can really hurt I wouldn't wanna be be cursed and I don't think you would but if you don't belive in it you have the full right nobody is forcing you to belive in pulsa denura so I guess the question you asked if we belive in pulsa denura is answered yes we do as history shows noone had a healthy or lived through the year after being cursed
At 4:14 AM,
Anonymous said…
this was take from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsa_diNura
Pulsa diNura or Pulsa Denoura (Aramaic: פולסא דנורא "lashes of fire") is believed by some to be a kabbalistic ceremony in which God is asked to curse someone who is believed to be a sinner. However, the Torah prohibits to pray that something bad should happen to someone else. Rather it offers the solution to pray that the bad in the person dies and he becomes a righteous person.
At 7:45 AM,
Anonymous said…
Police chief tells rabbi: No arrests just beatings Realizing that the community is determined in it's fight against the planned Gay Pride Parade in Jerusalem thereby rendering the threat of arrest useless. The police has reportedly threatened that they will instead be beating people as a deterrent. Nevertheless 40 arrets have been reported across Jerusalem last night.
At 7:48 AM,
Anonymous said…
Israel radio has reported that one person from bnei brak is paralyzed after being betaten by the police
At 8:49 AM,
Anonymous said…
The Pride parade is a Chilul HaShem, no doubt.
The violent protests are a great Chilul Hashem as well.
Perhaps, because the rock throwing at police, burning of property, smashing of windows, etc is being done in the NAME of G-d and fits so well with the stereotype of Charedim being mindless morons, the Chilul HaSHem is even greater. (Think about what Chilul HaSHem means -- a desecration of Hashem's name. Perhaps those who cheapen Hashem's Name are worse than those who commit terrible acts in the name of secularism.)
I was wondering why, although the Rabbonim have "denounced" and distanced them selves from this hooliganism, they haven't taken stronger actions, perhaps expelling these morons from our midst.
Who is to say which of the two groups represents a greater threat to our youth: A ridiculous-looking secular group that represents a secular outlook OR chashuveh-looking charedim with whom the youth can more readily identify -- and are seen as warrior heroes.
I would venture to say that the hooligans are a far greater threat to the values we want our youth to grow up with than these other people, who they don't identify with.
The march will take place for one day and then be forgotten.
At 9:12 AM,
Anonymous said…
How can you talk like that about our beloved Gedolay Hador they are messangers of Ha-shem. We aren't allowed to talk like that about our Gedolim who are full of Kedusha. You have to be careful. We don't only believe it but we know it that the Pulsa Dinura definitely as we have seen does work with the help of couse of Ha-shem
At 9:48 AM,
Anonymous said…
still waiting for someone to give me a good 'splaination as to why was no one complaining and rioting about the churches that are up in israel, or about the abortions, or about the prostitution, or about every other aspect that goes on there against the torah but THIS ONE they all wake up for???
everyone had lots to say but no one said anything. i felt like i was listening to the senators from ny!
At 10:03 AM,
Anonymous said…
If you have the sechel to use electricity and the internet, yet you also pretend to believe in primitive spells and witchcraft, where do you really stand?
At 10:55 AM,
Anonymous said…
Please list the names that will be included in the "Pulsa D'nura".
I would love to get some life insurance policies on them.
Thanks
At 10:57 AM,
Anonymous said…
To Moishe (8:49)
Before deciding what's right & what's wrong, you have to have DAAS TORAH. Gedolai Hador decide issues of such importance, not us laymen, smart however as we may be (or seem). Now let me (not a Rov, Rabbi or Rosh Yeshiva - just a plain blogger) try to explain the subject to you.
Chillul HaShem is not just what we perceive and scream out "Chillul Hashem". The Gemoroh (or Talmud) has a whole listing as of what each Amorah considered in his instance, to be a Chillul HaShem. Chillul Hashem is to weaken one's representation or image of HaShem. Certainly one must behave peacefully and be Mentchlich, but occasionally Kiddush HaShem calls for demonstrations and, if needed, indeed also rioting – to safeguard HaShem’s image. Think about it. Do you recall Pinchas who killed Zimre (not to far of than our case, actually in our case it's worse משכב זכור is worse than בועל ערמית). People must have been complaining "Chillul HaShem" at him, seeing such a distinguished Talmid Chochom & Godol, running with a sword, killing people. In fact, as we know - and Hashem TOLD US SO in Parshas Pinchus, it was the Kiddush HaShem of the greatest measure.
There is no bigger Chillul HaShem than to have this degenerate & debased band parade in HaShem’s holy land, proclaiming their self-induced desires & begging tolerance for their immoral & animalistic (actually animals do not engage themselves in this sort of behavior – its so unnatural & perverted as the Gemorah states ) conduct, while having HaShem’s chosen people standing back idly. We are HaShem’s representation here on this world, whether we like it or not, and we have an image to guard and portray.
This may be our test: how much we have done to stop this decadence from coming to fruition, whether it happens in the end or not.
There is also another reason to go out & protest – lest be influenced חס ושלום by this episode, if even a trace. By not protesting, such an episode can have LONG LASTING after effects חס ושלום. By protesting, we are at least protecting ourselves, even if it should ח"ו occur. Think about it. For more information on this subject, read up on this week’s parsha – about Sodom & Amorah. How appropriate!
At 11:00 AM,
Anonymous said…
THE FACT THAT THE CHARIDEM, CHASIDIM, MISNAGDIM, ASHKENAZIM, SEFARDIM, AND EVEN TRADITIONAL JEWES AND LEHAVDIL ELEF P'AMIM THE ARABS. MANY ARE COMING FROM DIFRENT LOCATIONS NOT ONLY FROM ISRAEL BUT ALSO FROM OTHER COUNRTIES TO PROTEST AGAINST TOGETER WITH SO MANY GEDOILY YISROEL AGAINST THIS TERIBLE CHILUL YERUSHALAYIM THE MAKOM HAKADOSH. THIS SHOULD GET THE SUPPORT OF ALL KLAL YISROEL
NOT LONG AGO IN RUSSA THE GOVERNMENT STOPED SUCH A PARADE.
WHAT A KITRUG WILL THIS BE AGAINST KLAL YISROEL IF CHAS VESHALOM THE POPE IN VATIKAN WILL COME OUT AGAINST THIS.
LAST TIME A FEW DAYS BEFORE THEY SCEDULED TO DO THIS PARADE, THE WAR STARTED WITH HISBALLA.
I HOPE THEY WILL DO TESHUVA AND NOT MAKE THIS PARADE
THIS PARADE SHOULD BE CONDEMMED BY EVRY NORMAL PERSON.
THIS IS MY OWN OPINION.
At 11:13 AM,
Anonymous said…
To Stam Yid (9:48)
I did answer you in the other blog yesterday, maybe you didn’t read, maybe you’re just critical of Gedolai Hador who have rightful (as if they need my agreement) come out full force, and are trying to post on another active blog. Here is the text for ALL to read:
To Stam Yid: (11:07)
The answer is plain simple. We understand that we cannot change the world, & even some of our own brethren, though we DO TRY. However when such an issue is at hand, we have to show ourselves & the world (even if we won't succeed) that we are Hashem's MORAL nation. The nation chosen to have HaShem's name called upon him CANNOT ALLOW such depravity in its midst (or anywhere).
Secondly, here the issue is to have a *** PRIDE march!?! (murderers pride, rapists pride, robbers pride - how's that?) Their ultimate goal is to get it to seem lawful! Think about it! We do not have to search too hard - this week's Parsha - Sodom & Ammorah - how appropriate!
12:25 AM
*****
Read up also my other reply Anon 10:57
Let me just add, the fact that they’ve decided to use the פולסא דנורא in this instance, a most dangerous procedure on possibly BOTH parties involved, indicates that the issue at hand is of the greatest importance.
At 11:23 AM,
Anonymous said…
To Anon 10:03
We DO have “sechel” to use electricity and all modern day toys, however HaShem’s holy powers have not been displaced by a drop. This is not “primitive spells or witchcraft” but real and combined efforts of Mekubalim, with the aid of HaShem at work. Just wait and see. Incidentally, let it be brought to the record, even the nonreligious in Eretz Yisroel and elsewhere shudder from this procedure.
At 11:29 AM,
Anonymous said…
To Anonymous 10:57
Thanks for the education.
Do you mean to say that only you are entitled to an opinion (because you are screaming "Da'as Torah,"), but not me (because I am not screaming Da'as Torah)?
Please note that the Rabbonim have condemned the violent protests as well. By defending them, aren't you arguing with the very Da'as Torah that you annoint yourself with?
Thanks for pointing out to me the biblical story of Sodom -- although Chazal seems to give a different reason for why they were destroyed than the one that you give. So, you're claiming Da'as Torah and then going against Chazal? Gevalt!
I am not denying that this parade seeks to glorify to'evah, a terrible aveira.
I am only saying that, from a sociological-psychological perspective, the hooliganism causes more lasting damage to our youth than the parade ever will.
I speak as a professional Mechanech, a charedi one if you must know.
This will be my last comment on this subject, bli neder, as I have no more time to write today.
At 12:32 PM,
Anonymous said…
To Moishe’s Reply (12:29)
Don’t read this if you don’t have time.
1) I NEVER intoned that I DO have Daas Torah, only that matters of such import belong to Gedolai Hador, not to us. (I am not a mechanech, or a professional at all for that matter)
2) Violence itself is NOT the trademark of our nation – nor do I condone it just as the Rabbonim don’t.
3) About Sodom – do further learning, perhaps you’ll come across.
4) About the “sociological-psychological perspective” which no doubt will result, possibly even a minuscule amount of the depraved Toaiva is worse. WHO decided that “hooliganism causes more lasting damage to our youth than the parade ever will”. You’re writing from a “professional educator’s” point of view, perhaps there are other views, and people to consider. Do you minimize the effect of a ORGANIZED PUBLIC DESECRATION to HaShem & His Torah. Do you diminish the high moral standing of our HaSHem’s people we have to protect?
At 12:44 PM,
Anonymous said…
WE JEWES OUTSIDE OF ISRAEL ESPECIALY IN AMERICA ARE OBLIGATED TO FEEL WITH THEM AND PROTEST AGAINST THIS.
MY SON LIVES IN ISRAEL TOLD ME THAT A PROTEST IN NEW YORK AT THE CONSULAT OF EVEN ONLY A FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE HAS A STRONGER EFECT AND IS BEING COVERD BY THE MEDIA IN ISRAEL MORE THE THOUSANTS OF PEOPLE PROTESTING IN ISRAEL.
WE CANT WASH OUR HANDS FREE. WHEN HASHEM WILL ASK US WHAT WE DID TO PRESERVE HIS HOLY CITY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO ANSWER. HOW IMBARASING WILL IT TO SAY "NOTHING".
LETS DO SOMETHING SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO THAT WE DID THE RIGHT THING.
THIS IS MY OWN OPINION.
At 12:47 PM,
Anonymous said…
stam yid - very well said!! Why make such a fuss over it and give them all the propaganda they need? And why should every child in Israel have to know what this is all about? If this wouldnt get so much attention then a our children would be more innocent.
At 1:55 PM,
Anonymous said…
to anonymous 12:47
since most gedoily yisroel told all there followers that they have to go out and protest against this. the opinions that oppose that is against most gedoily yosroel including you.
this makes evry one who will not participate in this protest a "poiresh min hatzibur" meaning one who departs from the comunity and the gemura says for "yashcenu nuchosh" meaning will be bitten from a snake. there are meny explanations for this, non of them are somthing to look forward to.
for your own good rething about it and change your mind.
this is my own opinion
At 2:40 PM,
Anonymous said…
What do you think? That the all the Rabbonim including the 'Eida Hachareidis' did not realize that the kids might find out that there is a protest??
Do you think that they forgot about the children???
(I think that the kids 'and adults' were told that the march is against an untzniusdiga parade)
The gedolim know down good and well what needs to get done, they live there, walk there, breathe there etc.
We are mechuyev to do as they tell us!
If they say protest: Then we MUST PROTEST!
When they stay quiet (or so you think) about other crazy aveiros, then we should keep quiet as well.
Being "smarter" than the gedolim reminds me of the times of Shushan, the times of the macabees and the times of pre-holocaust!!!!
Being an "oiberchochom" never brings any good!!
At 2:44 PM,
Anonymous said…
Now I understand how you guys survived for thousands of years, while everybody else disappeared. You have this curse to use when things become desperate.
I don't understand why these marching homo sickos have to advertise what they do in their bedroom. Why can't they stay in the closet? I have nothing against them as people if they keep it to themselves. But when they advertise, it is just sick and destructive. They feel better when they are not the only ones tormented by AIDS?
To add insult to injury why do they have to march in Jerusalem why can't they march in another Israeli secular city. Where are they going to march next, in the Vatican? Temple Mount? Children schools?
It seems like some of the commenters don't realize who is marching. I also had a hard time figuring out what this fuss is all about. Or are these commenters "in the closet" itching to come out? I hope not. Otherwise you've got a major problem on your hands internally. Maybe you’ve got too many unreported pedophiles running amuck internally spreading the “disease”.
At 3:00 PM,
Anonymous said…
I hope all you anti-gay people are voting republican in the national election. If the Dems take over we will will all have to become gay and speak arabic or korean cause the dems give into everyone.
At 3:31 PM,
Anonymous said…
Who is Rabbi AUerbach in Bayit Vegan who paskened that hafganas should cease in Bayit Vegan to protect the safety of those jailed in the earlier protests/rallies.
Is he the son of Rabbi Shlomo Zalman AUerbach ZTL?
At 4:05 PM,
ziskeit said…
i dont want to belive that people can talk on our highest! who has the guts to talk on the Eidah HaChareides. we all hope that the people will not survive the year. they are trying to bring us down to the lowest that it can be. we all have to come out and protest against this Menivulem!!!. btw its not only the E.H. its also every Ruv & holy Yid. so lets back them all the way.
At 4:10 PM,
Anonymous said…
The Pulsa Denura is worthless and foolish. A peaceful demonstration blocking the parade route is far more effective.
At 4:10 PM,
Anonymous said…
the 12 year old boy from bnei brak who was beaten untill he was paralized just died. hashem yeracheim
At 4:46 PM,
Anonymous said…
what's the name of the 12 yo child that died
At 9:46 PM,
Anonymous said…
Y the HELL is no 1 protesting this in the U.S. What the Hell is wrong with us Americans .Now the NAZI NAZI police have killed some one . Why is no 1 organizing a huge protest in the U.S.
_____________________________
Blame your rabbonim for allowing this insanity. Any deaths are on their heads.
At 11:03 PM,
Anonymous said…
To John From DC,
While I agree with most of your comments, I must take issue with your last paragraph.
It is true that some people that a posting on this blog do not know what the demonstation is about. We do not like to come out and say it in the open in case there are children that see this blog. Yes, we do try to shelter our children as much as possible.
Is that a reason for you to suggest that they have issues in the closet?
At 11:16 PM,
Anonymous said…
IS IT TRUE THAT A CHILD IN BNEI BRAK DIED?
At 11:28 PM,
Anonymous said…
There is no confirmation that any child had died
At 11:33 PM,
Anonymous said…
my first hand report from Yeshiva Kol Torah in Bayit Vgan was that some bochurim in the yeshiva decided to start some fires on the main road and when the cops came they pelted them with rocks and bottles. The trouble makers then ran into the yeshiva and were followed by the cops who beat anyone in sight including those learning in the bais medrash. a few bochurim suffered broken arms and a couple of bloodied heads. the mashgiach was furious that his bochurim should start up with the cops.
lets not forget who makes up the police force used in these riots- Druze,chilonim and Russians, many of whom happen to be goyim that were allowed into Israel only because their elter elter zaide was jewish.They can't wait to smash a yid in the head
At 3:35 AM,
Anonymous said…
Anonymous said...
Who is Rabbi AUerbach in Bayit Vegan who paskened that hafganas should cease in Bayit Vegan to protect the safety of those jailed in the earlier protests/rallies.
Is he the son of Rabbi Shlomo Zalman AUerbach ZTL?
Yes, he is. Who said he really said it? I'm not sure from what we understood last night on the radio that the Rabbonim really said go out. Thet said to stop it but how? Maybe with making a Yom Tefillah or some kind of big Tefillah I'm sure & have no question about it that they didn't mean to do what they doing now. Maybe maybe on Friday to learn in the streets .
At 8:30 AM,
Anonymous said…
Perhaps people would believe more in the power of the pulsa d'nura curse were it to be invoked and proven effective against those who have openly tried to destroy the Jews -- why was it not invoked against Hitler, yimach shmo (and if it was, why was he permitted 12 full years of killing yidden?)
Why was it not invoked against Arafat, yimach shmo, who had a way-too-long career of extreme bloodshed and hatred against the Jews before he FINALLY died at age 76 (BTW, the little Arab scumweasel was a well-known AC-DC pervert, as filthy as any of those sick-os who will be disgracefully marching with such "pride" on Friday; he died of AIDS, their "gay disease," which many, if not most of Friday's "proud" marchers either now have or will have in the next five years, although the Arabs hotly denied this uncomfortable truth about their revolutionary "Palestinian hero" and the scared Western media weasels covered it up so as not to "offend" the Muslims who consider the rasha Arafat to have been some kind of great man).
And why has pulsa d'nura not been invoked against those who make no bones about wanting to wipe out the Jews TODAY -- bin Laden, "Sheik" Nasralla of Hizbullah, and the Holocaust-denying idiot thug President of Iran, I'm-a-mad-jihadi?
If the rabbis can have these criminal killers of Jews struck dead before the eyes of the world, maybe people will be less skeptical and more respectful if they call down the Wrath of G-d on these pervert morons and desecrators of Jerusalem (and their secular cheerleaders, supporters, apologists and enablers) as well.
At 9:22 AM,
Anonymous said…
To Anon (8:30)
Simple: I'm not sure, in fact I'm pretty sure, that it doesn't work against non-Jews.
As I wrote before, its powers are immense and very dangerous (possibly on both parties involved) and is therefore not taken lightly.
At 10:45 AM,
Anonymous said…
Simple: I'm not sure, in fact I'm pretty sure, that it doesn't work against non-Jews.
As I wrote before, its powers are immense and very dangerous (possibly on both parties involved) and is therefore not taken lightly.
___________________________________
Magical morons; the lot of you.
At 11:15 AM,
Anonymous said…
"Simple: I'm not sure, in fact I'm pretty sure, that it doesn't work against non-Jews."
There are numerous stories that make the rounds that all of the many tragedies which have befallen the Kennedy family -- i.e., the so-called "kennedy Curse" -- came about because of a pulsa d'nura that was invoked against the clan patriarch -- the extremely anti-Semitic, Hitler-appeasing Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. (JFK's father), arising either from his public soft-soaping of Hitler and public denigrating the Jews when he was the US Ambassador to England in the early days of WWII, or, alternatively, from an incident on board a transatlantic passenger ship around Yom Tov time, in which Kennedy, lodged in a cabin next to one in which a number of observant Jews were davening for Yom Tov, made numerous complaints about the noise to the ship's captain and otherwise nastily harassed the Jews.
At 12:29 PM,
Anonymous said…
To "If the rabbis can have these criminal killers of Jews struck dead before the eyes of the world, maybe people will be less skeptical and more respectful if they call down the Wrath of G-d on these pervert morons and desecrators of Jerusalem (and their secular cheerleaders, supporters, apologists and enablers) as well".8:30 AM
Well said!
At 12:34 PM,
Anonymous said…
Perhaps the Gedolim ought to do some housecleaning themselves in their own yards (Mondrowitz, Kolko, etc.) before they send us out to attend to those marching.
These heimishe perverts hurt OUR innocents, attending to them ought to be Rabbonim's first priority.
At 3:47 PM,
Anonymous said…
11:03 sorry if I offended you. You must of misunderstood my comment.
I was trying to say that there are 2 reasons why someone in this blog would not agree in aggressively trying to stop the parade:
1) They are ignorant of the content of the parade. Which is totally fine.
OR
2) If they do know the content of the parade and are not opposing it, then they must have some “sympathy” to the "cause".
Which is consistent with the rumors I heard that there are unreported ultra orthodox pedophiles running amuck in the ultra orthodox communities. And only when they abuse outside the ultra orthodox communities do they get arrested.
But in no way am I judging or concluding which one is the case (1 or 2) with the commenters.
At 4:01 PM,
Anonymous said…
The problem is the frumocks in Yerusholiem scream wolf too many times. They scream, protest, and commit violence for minor issues.
Now they have a major issue on their hands. And they are hitting a wall. Tufostu muribu loy tufostu.
They better apologize for the past shtik, and commit themselves to stop doing this shtik in the future, then the authorities will have some respect and negotiate with them.
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