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Wednesday, November 08, 2006

Montreal, Canada - Synagogue Complaints about View Into Gym

Montreal, Canada - The view into a gym has driven a rift between YMCA clients and Hasidic Jews in Montreal's Mile End district.

Some members of the Avenue du Parc YMCA are upset with the centre's administrators, who allowed windows on the building's west side to be tinted in order to placate leaders of a Hasidic synagogue across the alley.
The Y members claim the tinted windows compromise the building's interior lighting and make it hard to practise tai chi and yoga.
They've started a petition defending their workout clothes and demanding the tinted windows be removed.

But bembers of the Yetev Lev synagogue paid for the tinted windows at the Y after they complained that their children were unwittingly watching too many women in various states of undress work out at the gym.
The congregation's rabbi said public nudity is not acceptable to his members, nor to any religious Jew.
The Yetev Lev synagogue serves about 300 families from the Satmar sect. The religious school, or yeshiva, educates about 120 boys 16 to 19 years old. About half of them, nearly all from New York, board at the school.

The Y members said the synagogue should tint its own windows if it wants to shield Hasidic children from activities at the gym.

12 Comments:

  • At 1:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    First of all he shul has frosted windows second the shul paid for the windows in the Y. The shul was there before the Y and this was a mutual aggrement with the Y as a friendly neighbor.

     
  • At 2:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    burnW,


    1) Please read the post:

    But bembers of the Yetev Lev synagogue paid for the tinted windows at the Y

    2) What is the solution for the children playing outside?

    Maybe Yetev Lev should install a fence, or skylight and keep the tinted windows.

     
  • At 4:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The solution is simple. People need to start respecting others. The YMCA as a Christian organization needs to be sensitive to others. I am sure if they had a muslim mosque next door, they would understand.

    As for practicing tai-chi and yoga, there is no requirement for light, and this is utter nonsense.

     
  • At 5:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    To anonymous: The YMCA was there long before there was any shul. Why doesn't the shul pay for a one-way window for the Y? That way, the women will be able to see out, but no one will be able to see in. It's the perfect solution. It costs more, but I'm sure the shul will have no problem financing it.

     
  • At 9:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Tinting windows doest help for nightime

     
  • At 10:32 AM, Blogger ziskeit said…

    first of all the Shul already have tinted windows. (i was there a few times) also the Yeshiva has. but if you're opening the window or something you can see everything. come on... its nothing wrong that we are trying to protect our children. if the board agrees with the congregation whats the problem? of course the people in the Y will try to block it just to show you cant tell me what to do.

     
  • At 10:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    think big

    sell tickets for the show

    potential for huge fundraisers to benefit the moisad..


    seriously guys.. dont forget.. we still live in golus

     
  • At 10:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The way i see it is that the majority of chassidim will turn away from moshiach when he finally arrrives, for the simple that he (moshiach) will not be dressed like them.

     
  • At 12:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The congregation Yetev Lev, or Good Heart, has been at its current location since 1985. The Park Avenue YMCA has been at its location for a century, but it was only during extensive renovations ending in 1994 that the exercise room was built.

     
  • At 1:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    re anon 12:15
    What is important to realize is that there is an issue of common decency, people are expected to dress differently in a city than at the beach, for example. Health codes in a swimming pool for example may require no clothing at all. There really are places with such rules.Imagine having a Health Club open next door to your childs school and then build windows facing the School.
    The Y was there first but they added this section with these windows 10 years after the School opened. There is precedent to not allow certain things near a School and it would be wrong to say the School came later, the modification of use and windows came later.
    In my humble opinion it seems as though the management of the Y realized that this was a problem and tried to work with the School, it seems there are members that are creating the trouble now. I would bet they are anti-semites finding a cause.

     
  • At 5:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I would have them install extra lights (perhaps even offer to pay for it) so that they can do their yoga etc... Take their members' arguements and make them go away. This way we (and the world) can see just how much their issue is with not-enough-light vs plain anti-moral-jewish idea.

    Yes we live in galus, but do we have to continue to take these breaches in moral code sitting down. I say fight for what is right!
    I bet that if the yeshiva would put up a 20-40ft fence the members would be livid as well. So let them grumble to their managment (who I might add did the right thing and worked with their neighbors when building a new section). Then if they take down the windows. Sue them! I am sure there is something to sue them on. If its not this I'll find you something to go and drag them to court.

     
  • At 2:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Zol mir alleh zain gezint en shtark!
    Jews will never stop thinking that the world centers around them!
    Wake up!!! we are in Golus for heaven's sakes!

     

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